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Last names: to change or not to change

Finally I found time to write this monstrosity. Here it is, the eagerly awaited (ha) Last Names Post. It’s long, so if you’re truly interested, grab a snack and get comfortable. No seriously. Kick off your shoes and pop some popcorn cuz it’s looong.

Let me start out by saying up front that the premise of this post is not to judge anyone else’s choice or to attempt to persuade anyone into making any particular decisions. All I intend to do is relay my thoughts on the subject and encourage others to think about it and perhaps relay their thoughts in turn. You can find my initial prompt here, but please feel free to chime in on this post too.

I’m sure you’ve figured out that I’ve given this issue a lot of thought, and in the end, what I’ve decided for myself is that I feel very strongly about preserving my last name and possibly passing it on. This is a personal choice I made a long time ago before I even met my current boyfriend (and likely future husband). I found it interesting that so many people mentioned feminism in comments to the previous post. For me, though I do consider myself a feminist, this was never a feminist decision. Perhaps the choice to give it some serious thought and consideration had some feminist roots, I owed myself that at least, but I don’t believe I am necessarily furthering feminist causes by keeping my last name. By speaking out about the fact that women do have choices in the matter? Yes, perhaps in that way I am. But in my own personal choice? No, it’s nothing more than just that: personal.

My last name means a lot to me, which is not true for many women. So I understand why it’s easy for many of them to give theirs up. To me, however, my last name truly is a part of my identity. All my life I’ve been a Smith (not my real name) Girl (there are five of us), and that means a lot to me. My family is very close, especially my siblings, and we feel a bond through our last name. My brother has the name tatooed on his back. Three of my sisters just had our last initial tatooed on their bodies (I’d do the same if I could get comfortable with the idea of permanently inking myself). I’m serious when I say it’s important to us. It represents our membership in the family, and even though we’d still welcome any member that changed their name at marriage, I personally want to keep mine.

Someone in comments pointed out that a last name is often a paternal bond, and because she’s not close with her father or his family she is happy to remove herself from that association. I, however, love my dad and the entire lineage that my name has descended from. I’m proud to be associated with it. So proud in fact that sometimes I wonder why not everyone wants to be a part of my family! On the other hand, I would have been equally as honored to be associated with my mother’s family in name. Yet I don’t feel disconnected from my mom because of our different names (though this may have more to do with the fact that my mother has changed her last name about seven different times in her life), so I am fully aware that a name is not the only thing that bonds people.

Also, my name represents my heritage. I am 100% Dutch; every single ancestor of mine is Dutch, as far back as we can trace. It’s very uncommon in my generation in America to be 100% anything. And my last name is very Dutch, it even has a really sweet translation. Again, that means a lot to me. While to some it’s just a last name, to me it’s my past and my present and decidedly my future as well.

To me, it would feel like I was losing part of my identity, emotionally and physically. Someone in comments said that if she wasn’t proud to be Mrs. [Husband's Last Name] then she wouldn’t marry the guy. For me though, it has nothing to do with not being proud to be Mrs. [Husband's Last Name], I would still be proud and honored to be his wife. But I don’t think I need to change my name to represent that. It’s not about rejecting his name, it’s about preserving mine. Nobody questions a man’s decision to keep his, nobody says that he must not be proud to be married to his wife. Why? Just because that’s the way it’s always been. I think it’s unfair to question a woman’s pride or solidarity to her husband just because she chooses to maintain her name.

Some people go so far as to commonly be referred to as Mrs. [Husband's First Name] [Husband's Last Name], which is really sad to me (there I’m being a little judgmental I guess). Who are you? Only the female extension of your husband? I’ve heard a lot of women say they feel like they don’t even know who they are after so many years of marriage, and while I know that’s not universal, I want to do what I can now to keep that from happening. I’m doing so in many ways, but yes, my decision to preserve my name is one. However, let me repeat: I am not trying to change anybody’s mind. This is only what I know to be right for myself.

In reading up on this topic, I read a quote somewhere. I’ve lost track of where I read it so forgive my improper citation, but it said something about how the last name tradition reflects the out-dated idea that a woman is subordinate in a marriage. The reason I bring this up is because of the word “reflects.” By no means does the tradition of a woman taking on her husband’s last name mean, universally, that she is subordinate to him. The act does not equal subordination, but as a whole, the tradition reflects an archaic notion. One that began in a time when women were generally subordinate to their husbands. By saying this, it may seem that I’m suggesting that indeed my decision to keep my last name is a feminist effort to oppose this tradition, but again, the decision was personal. Though I fully admit that my reasons for considering my choices did stem from ideas like the above.

I guess what I wish is not for more people to do like I do (I don’t really care what your last name is or where it came from!), but just that women and couples thought about it more. Many people in comments said that they didn’t or wouldn’t give it a second thought. Why not? It doesn’t take long. You’ll probably come to the same conclusion, but why not give it a second thought before you commit?

I ask soon-to-be-married people all the time what they plan to do with their last name, and almost all women say change it. When I ask why they either say they don’t know because they never really thought about it, or they say that they just thought they had to, like they had no choice. A few, of course, have more compelling and well-thought out reasons (see comments of this post for examples). I also have asked many married women of all ages why they chose to change their names (I run into very few who haven’t), and they give similar answers: they didn’t think about it or they thought they had to.

That bothers me. It bothers me that this is such a non-issue, that nobody even talks about it. In this article that Brad sent me (and which prompted me to finally bring up this issue here), it is stated that women changing their names to take their husband’s is “a patriarchal tradition so ingrained in American society that many women’s studies researchers have yet to study it.” No wonder nobody questions it. It’s so commonly practiced and accepted that most women, and men for that matter, never even think about it. And not only do we, as a society, not think about it on a personal level, we don’t study it either. It hasn’t really occurred to anyone that this is a women’s issue that needs to be researched, studied, questioned, looked at. I find that disturbing, but not at all surprising. Women are often interested to find out that they even have options, and men are usually shocked to hear that anybody does anything different.

Truth be told, it took Brad a little while to get used to the idea that I wouldn’t be a Jones (not his real name) like him. Like most men, he had assumed his future wife would take his name without question. In short order he came to accept my decision completely and has even stated vaguely that he hasn’t made any firm decisions about his own last name, though I suspect he’s not quite ready for anything as radical as taking his wife’s name upon marriage. That’s okay, he respects my decision and I will respect any that he makes.

I plan to talk further about this particular option, that of the man taking the woman’s last name, later. But first let’s examine what options there are.

Options
The most common, of course, is for a wife to take her husband’s last name. This is pretty standard, and I’ve heard that it makes a lot of things in life simpler. One might also argue that it complicates matters because one person’s legal and personal identity is being changed (ever tried to track down an old high school friend who has since gotten married and changed her name?). This option is out for me for all the reasons I’ve already discussed.

A similar option, already mentioned, is for the husband to take his wife’s name. The same simple v. complicated issues apply here, only for the other person. This one is up to Brad, though I doubt a complete name change is in his future.

Another option, which is becoming increasingly more common, is the hyphenated name. Smith-Jones, for example. In the past it’s mostly been women who do this while their men retain only one name, but I think that more couples are considering mutual hyphenation so that they still share a last name. This could work for Brad and I, except for the fact that our names sound ridiculous together no matter which comes first. If our names had a nice natural rhythm then maybe, but as they are it’s just not worth it when we’re content with our own separate names.

Similarly, some couples say screw the hyphen and just have two full-fledged last names. Yeah okay, that’s interesting, but for us it still sounds as ridiculous as the hyphenation. No thanks.

Some couples choose to smoosh their names together. This works well for some, such as the Miller + Stonebrook = Millstone example in the original comments. Natural and comfortable. We, however, have tried all possible combinations of our names and each time we utter one out loud, we both have a good laugh. Every possibility sounds either like a clown’s name or a new heart medication. This option will not work.

Some people, women especially, keep their maiden name professionally but change their last name for every other purpose. I don’t get this. Why? I mean I see why, you’re already established professionally and don’t want to confuse people. But isn’t it confusing to have two last names? How do you keep them straight? What if you know somebody both professionally and personally, what do they call you? Yes, I might be judging again, but I just don’t get it. No, this option is definitely not for me.

A couple women in comments said that they moved their maiden name into the middle slot, bumping their middle name out of the mix and taking their husband’s last name. I’m not particularly attached to my middle name, so that might be okay, except I don’t want to lose my last name or even move it. It’s too important to be demoted to the middle. I offered this option to Brad, thinking maybe he’d be willing to try it on himself. He didn’t bite.

In the end, we’ve decided that we’re okay with having different last names. He likes his, I like mine, and this way neither of us has to deal with changing our name on every single legal document. Unless one of us has a major change of heart, I think we’ll be Shannon Smith and Brad Jones (and if anybody ever sends a letter to “Mr. and Mrs. Brad Jones” I’ll kindly ask them to respect both my first and last names as different from my husband’s thank you very much). Yep, we’re okay with our decision. Two people, two last names.

But what about the kids?

Children
When we think about eventually having children, we run into all kinds of trouble. Most people would just give the kids their dad’s name even if the mother’s is different. And at first I thought that would be fine with me too. But now I’m not so sure. Brad says that last names are a connection to the parents, but I argue that they are a connection to a family. If I called my kids Jones, and that simply meant they were connected by name to their father, then I would be happy. But in reality, it means they are connected to the entire Jones family.

Now, it gets a little complicated here, and without divulging too much, let’s just say that I feel much closer and more welcome in part of Brad’s family than the other part. And that other part is the Jones part. I like all the Joneses, but after two years with Brad, I still feel like a stranger. I don’t want to say any more than that, but in the end, I want my kids to be linked, in name, not only to his/her parents but to a family that his/her parents are close to. Therefore, I want Smith officially represented in some way.

We could hyphenate, but if we’re not willing to plague ourselves with such an awkward sound, can we do that to our kids? We’ve considered making either Smith or Jones a middle name for each child, and making the other a last name. Brad has even suggested that we give each child a different name, one Smith and one Jones, but that idea was quickly discarded. We’ve toyed with this issue endlessly, never coming up with an acceptable solution. Kids are a long way off for us, so we keep hoping that by the time they come around, we’ll have stumbled upon the perfect solution. Any ideas?

A Mind Shift
Here’s where I talk a little more about the idea of men taking their wives’ last names. Please, read this article. I think it does a good job of explaining how uncommon this practice is and how a decision to do it affects a couple in so many more ways than the more traditional options.

I’ve already mentioned how this custom is so ingrained in our society that we don’t even pay attention to it, nor think about it, nor study it. But even for those few couples that do give it some thought, if they choose to do anything that challenges tradition, they are slapped in the face by loved ones and legal institutions alike.

Before I get into that, let me first point out that my family is perhaps on the cutting edge of this social change, which maybe makes it familiar to me and easier to view as perfectly normal. I mentioned earlier that my mother has changed her name about seven times in her life. She does this with each marriage and divorce (it’s been a rocky road that has finally led her to a good guy). But what is significant is that after her second divorce, rather than reverting back to ther maiden name, she took on the last name of her kids, which is also her first husband (my dad)’s last name. This was not strange or uncomfortable for anyone involved, it’s just what worked.

Secondly, and more pertinently, my brother-in-law did not hesitate to take my sister’s last name when they were married five years ago. He’s a Smith now. He didn’t have any particular attachments to his name, she did to hers. His name was a little awkward, her last name was short and sweet (Granted, we have our fair share of complications. Our name is not exactly spelled how it sounds), so it just worked for them.

I think it was pretty simple for my brother-in-law to change his name, but that doesn’t seem to be the case for most against-the-grain men. According to the article there are only a handful of states that make it simple for men to change their names; the rest make them jump through flaming hoops.

It’s just not normal, and anything not normal must be made complicated. I can only hope that these men will keep fighting the good fight, and that more men will join the battle, and that eventually it will be just as easy for men to change their names as it is for women.

Another thing that caught my attention in the article is how confused and shocked a couple’s family and friends are when they do something so unheard of in our society. They just don’t get it, maybe they think it’s a joke. I think my family took my sister and her husband’s decision with ease (Oh really? That’s cool), and even his family didn’t bat their eyes more than once. But most couples who dare to be different are met with a million questions and endless awkard moments. And unfortunately, a lot of mockery as well.

It saddens me that when men choose to take their wife’s last name at marriage, they are confronted with unbelievable intolerance. The article tells the story of one man who was called a sissy and told to turn in his man card. My question is this: Is it really that horrible to do something that is traditionally done by women? What is so wrong with women that men don’t want to be associated with their ways at all? When a woman does something “traditionally male,” she is usually applauded by her fellow women for daring to put herself out there. Men, when doing something “traditionally female,” however, are mocked and ridiculed by their peers as weak or inferior. Why? That, to me, signifies so much that is wrong with our culture.

I like what one guy in the article said about being a granola liberal who wants to tweak tradition. For him that was a secondary benefit or reason for his decision, but it didn’t hurt. Same here. I like the idea that I might be part of the beginning of a growing trend. I always imagine that if I lived in a different era, I would be someone who challenged tradition and was on the cutting edge of all the major societal shifts that have occurred in our culture. Maybe I would have been one of the first women to go to college or one of the first people to oppose slavery. But I live in this century, and so one of the things I can do is not be afraid to challenge traditions like name-changing.

The article closes with a quote from one of the men with a new last name. He says that he’s worried people will think he took his wife’s last name so that others will do so as well, but really that’s not it at all. It just made sense for him and his wife. My sentiments exactly.

I hope nobody thinks that I think my decision is the best decision, or that I want everyone to follow my example. Every couple has a different solution that works for them; this is what works for us. I just hope that you have a little something to chew on for awhile. I don’t care if more or fewer last names change because of this, as long as the thinking starts to change.

14 Responses to “Last names: to change or not to change”

  1. Lauren says:

    Wow, well said. I think that may be the longest blog post I’ve ever read, and you did a great job of stating all points of view.

    For me, I can’t wait to take my future husband’s name. I’m not very attached to my surname, and I’m not close to my father and his family–my stepfamily. In fact, instead of deciding whether or not I should change my last name, I’ve been deciding whether or not to even invite my father to our wedding.

    One major reason I’d like to change my name is because my current last name has an apostrophe in it. I’m one of those O’Reilly/O’Malley type names, and although I love my Irish heritage I will be extremely relieved to get rid of the confussion (most internet sites and colleges have a hard time dealing with the fact that apostrophes could possibly be included in a name) once and for all.

    My boyfriend’s middle name is his mother’s maiden name. He didn’t much like having that middle name when he was a child, but when his mother passed away when he was 17 he came to love that a part of her stayed with him in name.

    He’s Irish as well so I will simply be getting a new Irish name. And I couldn’t be more in love with it. I am more a part of his family than I am a member of my own and so this name change feels right to me.

    I think in the end, it’s a matter of preference. Your flag at the bottom of the page says it all “marraige is love”. If you love a person, you respect him/her and her choices. And it is no one else’s decision on what you and your sweethear would like to do with your name. I don’t think feminism has anything to do about it.

    Thanks for such a great post.

  2. *Lauren* says:

    Oh my gosh Shannon… I am always amazed at how well you are able to articulate your thoughts and opinions. You always offer well thought out explanations, and are right on the money (as far as I am concerned) with every topic you take on. It’s probably no surprise that I am in 100% agreeance with you on this subject (as I am with most). I’m glad that you evaluate societal situations and ask “Why?”. The world needs more people who do the same, both male and female!

    Very well spoken! As always, I couldn’t agree more. I can’t really offer much insight where children’s last names are concerned (as I haven’t given the subject much thought). I will, however, encourage you to keep doing what you’re doing… there can never be too many free-thinking people in the world (free-thinking FEMALES at that)!

  3. daisies says:

    first of all, i think you rock and yes i totally agree ~ it is a decision that requires a LOT of thought. I think when I first commented on it, I just skimmed it out and didn’t really go into the detail and thought that went behind our decision and given your wonderful (i enjoyed a pizza while reading) thought out post, i thought i’d give you a little more information on my decisions.

    Please note that my decision just reflects my experience and I totally agree with your decision and anyone else’s because yes it is a personal choice and we should all support each other’s choices on these types of matters.

    I was married before and I kept my name because it was important to me for many of the reasons you listed here actually : ) When we had our son, it was complicated but we ended up giving him, my ex-husband’s name. I don’t think it ever really bothered him that I kept my name and it had nothing to do with our fairly amicable divorce.

    When Duke and I moved in together, we always got a giggle out of the fact that all three of us had our own unique and different last names ~ was never a problem. When I had my twins, it became complicated because the hospital automatically gave them my name because we weren’t married but I filled out the forms to give them Duke’s name because we decided as a family that is what we wanted for personal reasons. When Eliot died, he ended up retaining my name but when Henry died, he ended up with Duke’s name and its weird what kind of things bother you when you are under that kind of stress but it bothered us.

    Though we kind of considered ourselves married, after everything that happened, we wanted to make it official because through everything, we were amazing together and Duke’s huge massive family embraced me and gave me and give me so much so when got married, I wanted to embrace that for us and for any future children so I took his name retaining my heritage and feeling in my heart that it was the right thing for me. I still feel that way.

    But, like I said, where I live when you adopt your husband’s name, it is not a legal name change so you actually retain your name as well which sits well with me. I don’t, however, consider myself ‘mrs insertlastname” but rather “darlene instertlastname” and “darlene insertotherlastname” ~ i really don’t mind having two last names and because i only use the one for my art, it never really becomes an issue.

    As a sidenote, Duke’s mom gave Duke her maiden name as his middle name and I always thought that was kind of cool even though he was number nine out of nine kids.

    Thanks for the wonderful thought out post ~ one of the many reasons I think you are so amazing : )

  4. Brad says:

    I’d like to officially put my stamp of approval on this post :)

    There really isn’t anything that Shannon wrote that I disagree with. Weve alked at length about all of these issues and, like she said, we’re deadlocked. Well, at least about how to solve the kids issue. We do have one thing pretty much decided, Shannon will have ‘Smith’ somewhere in her last name.

    And I’m fine with that. yeah, at first i was like “Why?”, but that was ignorance. If I’ve learned nothing else over the last two years of being with Shannon and in school full-time again, it’s the follies of ignorance. The pure insanity of doing something without understanding (and believing in) why you’re doing it. This goes far past last names. Heard of a thing called slavery? Back in the day, it was perfectly acceptable to treat people different from us in horrible ways. Why? Because that’s what you do. It’s what everyone else is doing, and how dare you go against the grain. It took forever to get by that racial and cultural divide, and it will take even longer to erase it from our memories. We’re still dealing with the effects of stupid decisions like that, and we’re still dealing with idiotic people who still believe “that’s just my way.” yeah, that’s a judgement on my part, I guess. right and wrong always will be, but this is just an example.

    I am digressing, perhaps. Let me just say that I really haven’t vetoed the idea of me taking on the ‘Smith’ last name. To be perfectly honest, I’m not keeping ‘Jones’ because I feel a deep family connection. I never have felt that deep or personal of a connection to the Jones family, and I’ve actually felt like quite the outsider with them. But Jones is just who I am. To me it represents where I came from, how I grew up, and what decisions led to today. So maybe I can be Brad Jones Smith. Who knows. Or maybe I’ll be Brad Van-Jones (to get that cool Van Halen thing going.) Shannon can be Shannon Van-Smith, and our kids can be Johnny and Jany Van. There. Solved. :)

    Please help us with this! We mainly just want to be able to have kids and have them still feel like they’re a part of our family. We want to be able to book a reservation for the ‘Van’ family, or whatever common last name we would all have. We want to start new traditions (common-sense ones, of course,) and a new sense of family. Maybe we don’t need a common last name to do that, but how do you think kids would take to different ones?

  5. Alison says:

    “Many people in comments said that they didn’t or wouldn’t give it a second thought. Why not? It doesn’t take long. You’ll probably come to the same conclusion, but why not give it a second thought before you commit?”

    While I agree with most of your post, that comment just bothered me…so here’s my answer:
    Because this just isn’t such an important issue for some of us! I was well aware of the options out there but I’ve always looked forward to taking my husband’s last name (even before I knew who he was.) There is enough in life (and marriage) to analyze, debate, and compromise on without starting to question those things you know yourself to want (but more power to those of you who DO feel strongly about this!)

  6. Shannon says:

    Alison, thanks for the comment. I don’t mean to suggest that this should be as important to everyone as is is to me. If you know it’s what you want and why you want it, if you can answer with more than “I don’t know, just cuz. I never really thought about it” then it sounds like you’ve given it thought even if you don’t realize it.

    From your comment it seems like you know you want what you’ve decided, instead of just thinking you want it, and I think that’s great. But I’ve talked to people who have said, “I wish I would have thought about it more” not only about this but about a lot of things. So I’m not trying to make this the number one issue for marrying couples, I just like to encourage thoughtful decisions. I hope I didn’t come off as condescending or demanding.

  7. Lindsay says:

    I want to offer up a loosely related thought. And forgive me if i get overly feminist here, but… well, deal with it.

    You discussed how women taking on the husband’s surname reflects the archaic notion that she is subordinate to him. And you pointed out that he isn’t expected to alter his name in any way. … Well, how about that?

    When engaged, only the woman is expected to wear a ring. Other men presumably see this and deduce that she’s “taken” and they move on. (Before rings, did the men just pee on their brides-to-be?) … The men have no such ring, no overt symbol of their relationship status.

    Then, when married, as you said, the woman becomes Mrs. [Husband's Last Name] :::::Or worse, Mrs [Husband's First Name] {Husband’s Last Name:::::. And not only does said husband not typically take on any part of his wife’s surname, but also his “Mr” has no married variation. While “Miss” turns to “Mrs.”, “Mr.” is always “Mr.”

    I’m not nearly as eloquent as you are at articulating these thoughts, but wanted to put them on the table as they seem ever-so-loosely related to some of the things you touched on. And of course, I’m not saying I don’t hope to one day wear a beautiful engagement ring or be called Mrs. [Husband's Last Name], but rather that these concepts should be studied more thoroughly.

  8. Shannon says:

    I’m amazed that so many people read this whole thing, I’m impressed with everyone’s tenacity. I can’t reply to every comment, but I have a story or three to go with the issue Lindsay pointed out.

    1. When my dad proposed to his now wife, he gave her a ring of course. And then she went out and bought him an engagement ring too! I thought that was a great idea. Of course he just used the same ring when they got married because he didn’t want to wear two the way most women do.

    2. I also didn’t want an engagement ring. I hate wearing jewelry, and I didn’t want the pressure of having to wear a big ring all the time. Plus when we get married, I’d just want to wear a simple wedding band anyway, so why spend the money on a diamond? But Brad said he’d like to be able to propose someday, ring and all. So I said that as long as I wasn’t expected to wear two rings every day the rest of my life, that I’d be happy to have an engagement ring. See, I can compromise. And maybe he’ll want one too.

    3. First I told Brad about wanting to keep my last name, which he got used to quickly. Then I told him that I’d probably just continue indicating myself as a “Ms.” when asked because “Mrs.” just sounds so… I don’t know, not me I guess. When I told him, he said, rather huffily, “So basically you’re not making any changes to show that you’re married.” And then I reversed it and asked him what changes he was making that I wasn’t. None. Then I think he understood.

  9. Jess says:

    Well, I don’t have much to comment. Just that I read the whole thing! LOL

    I, being fairly archaic-like, non-feminist, old-school Christian-like, one who doesn’t mind being subordinate in the Biblical sense to her husband/partner/mate-for-life/lifetime companion, will continue to believe that taking my husband’s name (should I ever marry again) will be the way to go for me.

    Thanks for the thought provoking subject matter!

  10. JenniferW says:

    OMG, I had the worst time when it came time to decide on a name change! I was 30 when I got married and my name was everything that had happened to me to make me who I was. The thought of changing it made me feel…like I was losing myself and trying to be someone I wasn’t. So I tried the personal contacts get a married name and business contacts stayed maiden.

    Then I got separated a year after marriage. I was so glad that I hadn’t legally changed my name to his. BUT…I got pregnant with his baby a year after we separated (we still are btw) and after I had our baby I changed it to his and the baby automatically got his. They didn’t even ask me what it should be because I was married! I was really upset about that to be honest.

    Anyway, the point is that the desire to have my family unit to share the same name was stronger than my need to feel like an individual separate from my husband. And after having our son, I became a new person than the one who held my maiden name. It didn’t matter as much.

    I wish there was an easy solution for someone in your situation. Maybe after you have children it’ll get easier rather than more complicated. It IS such an important decision that more people getting married should give thought to before just doing it.

  11. Angela says:

    I changed my name, obviously, but it wasn’t a non-issue either. I didn’t spend more than five minutes debating this issue, for me it was a natural decision. I’m proud to be a “Smith” now. And I feel a strong connection to my new last name. In actuality though, I know if I would have had a professional job before I got married, I probably would have kept my old last name professionally and changed my last name to Kevin’s for everything else, because in my eyes, I’m as much a “Smith” as a “Jones.” But then big differences here is first I’m super close to his family as well as my own, and I met Kevin at such an early age, part of my growing up life I already identified myself as part of their family. .

  12. daisies says:

    brad … i don’t know how most kids feel about the last name thing but i can say that it has never really bothered my son to have a different last name than me ~ he kind of liked it when we all had different last names but we’re pretty artsy fartsy over here and very non-traditional so that may have had some sort of influence over his thoughts on the matter.

    such good well thought out commentary in this thread ~ its so great that we all have so much choice and can do what makes us comfortable. it wasn’t always the way i think.

    :-)

  13. Scott says:

    Shannon, you make some good points. Brad has mentioned before that you feel strongly about keeping your name and I have to admit that it caught me off guard at first, but I understand where you’re coming from.

    When Meg and I got married, having the same name was important to us because we were becoming family, and having the same name was an important component of that. We did go the traditional route and take my name, but thats just us. The important thing is that we were putting aside who we were before and starting something new together. Whether she became a Jones or I became a Smith was far less important than the idea of us both coming together to be a family.

    You have an awesome family heritage, and that instills a lot of meaning in your family name. Do you think it would have as much meaning if everyone in your family had kept their last names? I can’t imagine that it would. If we all kept our names through marriage, we would have 1 parent that shared our name, 1 grandparent, 1 great grandparent. Only half of our siblings would share our name, and so on and so on. It’s not the best argument to take on a spouse’s name, but I think it would dilute the proud history that people have regarding their name.

    For Meg and I, we could have gone either way and been happy. She could have been a Jones. I could have been a Smith. The important thing for us was that we were whatever we were, together. A name’s just a name, right? But like you were eluding to, we hold our names close t our heart. They’re part of our identity. If two people get married and they’re holding on to two different things, is that bringing them closer?

    Maybe it’s easy for me to say because I’ve still got my last name, but I would have gladly given it up if thats what it took for us to share the same one. Maybe we should all just be flipping coins instead.

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